Radical racists in the mid 1980's did not consider the Ku Klux Klan as effective in leading the revolutionary movement. Coalitions such as the Order gang were formed, along with such groups as Identity followers, White Nationalists, Skinheads, Survivalists, Posse Comitatus members, and neo-Nazis. These groups advocated violent revolution to establish the supremacy of the white race and put their idealogies above the law. They sought out prisoners and disgruntled adolescents to serve as soldiers in the upcoming revolution. While these groups are very radical, the use ordinary public relations techniques to present themselves as wholesome and clean cut. Although not large in numbers, their violent goals make them very dangerous.