The discussion revealed that persisters and leavers have similar misgivings and frustrations with these types of programs. Their complaints center on tedium, disappointment with the program, problems with staff or peers, or general dissatisfaction. While everyone complains, persisters seem to complain the loudest. Most persisters considered leaving at some point in the program. They stayed after considering the advantages and drawbacks of continuing in the program; the reasons persisters decided to stay fall into several categories including social bonds, parental and staff influence, determination, looking toward the future, and satisfaction with the program. Leavers talked about the positive aspects of the programs; most leavers indicated their dissatisfaction to staff members well before their departure. Youth's reasons for leaving can be categorized as reasons extrinsic to a program and program-related reasons that are usually very personal. This discussion indicated that youth are especially vulnerable to attrition during the initial phase of program participation, that monetary rewards and positive learning experiences are the most frequently cited incentives to persist, and that leavers may actually provide a positive role for those who remain.